I stay involved with performing and playing because for me it is an art form completely detached from my income. I don't teach music, or depend on it for anything other than feeding my soul. That puts it in a pure space that in turn nurtures and feeds my work with clay that is in a dimension of economics. If you have worked with clay a long time, I am sure you have encountered the "burn out" dilemma. I have spent decades writing about clay, doing workshops, teaching and firing hundreds and hundreds of kilns. At an inflection point about 15 years ago, I realized that not working in the studio, teaching clay or doing anything related to clay at times, gave me insight and inspiration to return to the clay with a love and wonder that was there from the beginning. So, I guess you could say that I do music to do clay. As with most everything in my life, I don't seem to stick my toe in the water. I drink deep submerge and swim as far as possible.